GT - Should the Gypsy and Traveller pitch allocation be located on one site or distributed over several?
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 17369
Received: 20/03/2010
Respondent: Mr Ron Sadler
A single site of a total of 18 pitches would be better facilitated.
A single site of a total of 18 pitches would be better facilitated.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 17453
Received: 22/03/2010
Respondent: Mr David Dare
One site if we have to. Suggest best site is on A127 and A1245 junction. And hopefully they will be controlled, with what they can do on the land.
One site if we have to. Suggest best site is on A127 and A1245 junction. And hopefully they will be controlled, with what they can do on the land.
Support
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 17605
Received: 29/03/2010
Respondent: Mrs Joan Mitchell
I agree the pitch allocation should be located on one site.
I agree the pitch allocation should be located on one site.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 17745
Received: 05/04/2010
Respondent: Mrs Barbara Oliver-Mayho
I believe the gypsy sites should be distributed over several areas and not all placed together.
I believe the gypsy sites should be distributed over several areas and not all placed together.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 17811
Received: 07/04/2010
Respondent: mrs sarah-jane piper
I feel that the Gypsy/Traveller pitch allocation should be located on one big site with all ammenties being provided, ie schools etc, splitting the sites into smaller ones doesnt give the travellers a sense of being with there community which is a very important part of there life has anyone asked them what they want?
I feel that the Gypsy/Traveller pitch allocation should be located on one big site with all ammenties being provided, ie schools etc, splitting the sites into smaller ones doesnt give the travellers a sense of being with there community which is a very important part of there life has anyone asked them what they want?
Support
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 17945
Received: 13/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Paul Sealey
I believe the pitch allocation should be located on one site. The total provision is not so large as to justify splitting it between several sites. To that end I believe either GT1 or GT2 provides the best solution.
I believe the pitch allocation should be located on one site. The total provision is not so large as to justify splitting it between several sites. To that end I believe either GT1 or GT2 provides the best solution.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18039
Received: 14/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Dennis Mugford
Whilst the imposed allocation remains at 18 pitches, it would seem sensible to retain a single site enabling ease of control and monitoring.
Dennis & Jenny Mugford
Whilst the imposed allocation remains at 18 pitches, it would seem sensible to retain a single site enabling ease of control and monitoring.
Dennis & Jenny Mugford
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18165
Received: 15/04/2010
Respondent: Mrs Susan Thomas
One site is preferable. A council owned and run site with well defined pitches supplied with amenities. This would mean greater control over the standards of sewage and refuse disposal and the number of persons per sight.
One site is preferable. A council owned and run site with well defined pitches supplied with amenities. This would mean greater control over the standards of sewage and refuse disposal and the number of persons per sight.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18173
Received: 16/04/2010
Respondent: Mr David Griffiths
They should be spread around and only placed on sites that are self contained to avoid unauthorised expansion.
Not only that but these sites offer them the opportunity to maintain their nomadic nature without being exposed and causing potential detriment to larger areas of existing residents.
I do feel they should be paying council tax as well like everybody else
They should be spread around and only placed on sites that are self contained to avoid unauthorised expansion.
Not only that but these sites offer them the opportunity to maintain their nomadic nature without being exposed and causing potential detriment to larger areas of existing residents.
I do feel they should be paying council tax as well like everybody else
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18180
Received: 16/04/2010
Respondent: mrs dorothy baynton
the gypsies should be allocated a single site, then the sewage, gas & electric services etc could be provided and controlled by the council.
the gypsies should be allocated a single site, then the sewage, gas & electric services etc could be provided and controlled by the council.
Object
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18241
Received: 21/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Kelvin White
I object to any gyspy sites being considered at all.
I object to any gyspy sites being considered at all.
Object
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18317
Received: 23/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Brian Watts
i think that one site will enable the gypsy to live within their own comunity,this land could then be monitored by the council and provided with
sewage and water, they really do not like to mix with the majority of people.
i think that one site will enable the gypsy to live within their own comunity,this land could then be monitored by the council and provided with
sewage and water, they really do not like to mix with the majority of people.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18433
Received: 27/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Leslie Sampson
Ideally, there should be one properly serviced site to accommodate the requirement that the council has to provide 18 pitches for travellers to stop at, but in light of the close proximity of GT1 & GT2 these sites would be suitable and the excellent road access would make it easier for temporary schooling, transport and health care needs to be provided.
Ideally, there should be one properly serviced site to accommodate the requirement that the council has to provide 18 pitches for travellers to stop at, but in light of the close proximity of GT1 & GT2 these sites would be suitable and the excellent road access would make it easier for temporary schooling, transport and health care needs to be provided.
Object
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18451
Received: 27/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Bryan Randall
When the traveler site in Crays Hill was created there was one major flaw, it had no sustainable boundaries, this allowed the site to increase in size and numbers until it reached the size it is now. The 2 proposed sites in Hockley have the same problem although the pitch may be meant for only 1 fixed van and 1 mobile there is a larger area of land around the plots that could be either used for more vans or to store and hoard rubbish, this is something I do not wish my children to wittnes.
When the traveler site in Crays Hill was created there was one major flaw, it had no sustainable boundaries, this allowed the site to increase in size and numbers until it reached the size it is now. The 2 proposed sites in Hockley have the same problem although the pitch may be meant for only 1 fixed van and 1 mobile there is a larger area of land around the plots that could be either used for more vans or to store and hoard rubbish, this is something I do not wish my children to wittnes.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18484
Received: 27/04/2010
Respondent: Mrs Ann Vaufrouard
One site has to be the best option for so many reasons, including
1) easier to police and maintain in one single place
2) pay for one set of amenities and develop one site
3) Why spread them throughout the community that clearly doesn't want them!
4) Put them away from existing housing, where they can be a single community.
One site has to be the best option for so many reasons, including
1) easier to police and maintain in one single place
2) pay for one set of amenities and develop one site
3) Why spread them throughout the community that clearly doesn't want them!
4) Put them away from existing housing, where they can be a single community.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18490
Received: 27/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Terence Millard
They should be located on one site. Surely it must be more cost effective to build and in the future administer all the pitches in one location
They should be located on one site. Surely it must be more cost effective to build and in the future administer all the pitches in one location
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18509
Received: 12/05/2010
Respondent: Hockley Parish Council
They should be all on one site with accessibility to main highways.
They should be all on one site with accessibility to main highways.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18557
Received: 27/04/2010
Respondent: mr Alan Wolfson
I believe the single site allocation (GT6) makes the most sense as the Gypsy/Traveller community is very close and they will be able to visit their friends without driving or walking on main roads.
I believe the single site allocation (GT6) makes the most sense as the Gypsy/Traveller community is very close and they will be able to visit their friends without driving or walking on main roads.
Object
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 18808
Received: 28/04/2010
Respondent: Mrs Lyn Hopkins
No they should definately not be located on one site. This adds to bad feeling with the local residents, a huge site devalues their property and destroys the outlook of the area.
To spread the sites throughout the district would be a much fairer and more economic decision. It would also give them access to schools and facilities in all areas.
No they should definately not be located on one site. This adds to bad feeling with the local residents, a huge site devalues their property and destroys the outlook of the area.
To spread the sites throughout the district would be a much fairer and more economic decision. It would also give them access to schools and facilities in all areas.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19038
Received: 28/04/2010
Respondent: Mrs Ruth Fitzgerald
I feel that they should be located in one site.
I feel that they should be located in one site.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19068
Received: 28/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Carl Moller
Will travellers not want to be situated together and stuated away from others in the local area. Will there be an influx from the site in Basildon when they are evicted. If so pick a small site which will fit only the number we have to take in.
Will travellers not want to be situated together and stuated away from others in the local area. Will there be an influx from the site in Basildon when they are evicted. If so pick a small site which will fit only the number we have to take in.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19092
Received: 28/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Graham Bloomfield
I feel that the traveller sites should be allocated on ONE SITE for the following reasons:
1. council has only one site to monitor/control. logical and more efficient and therefore lower cost for tax payer
2. better for the travellers who then all live with people with similar lifestyles and interests and have more space rather than being squeezed on a small site
3. should be one site near a major A road so good access for traveller vehicles
4. ensure near to under utilised infrastuctire (roads, schools, etc)
I feel that the traveller sites should be allocated on ONE SITE for the following reasons:
1. council has only one site to monitor/control. logical and more efficient and therefore lower cost for tax payer
2. better for the travellers who then all live with people with similar lifestyles and interests and have more space rather than being squeezed on a small site
3. should be one site near a major A road so good access for traveller vehicles
4. ensure near to under utilised infrastuctire (roads, schools, etc)
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19173
Received: 29/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Paul Orrock
I think on one site since this allows them to build their own community and services without affecting permanent residences and means they would be able to take pride in the site and hopefully maintain it to a reasonable standard, with proper utilities and drainage. Smaller sites may feel like they are being marginalised rather than being supported. GT6 or GT2 would be the best option for this.
I think on one site since this allows them to build their own community and services without affecting permanent residences and means they would be able to take pride in the site and hopefully maintain it to a reasonable standard, with proper utilities and drainage. Smaller sites may feel like they are being marginalised rather than being supported. GT6 or GT2 would be the best option for this.
Object
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19374
Received: 29/04/2010
Respondent: mrs patricia nevill
we strongly object to having a gypsy and travellers site because it would take away our greenery and outlook and do not want to be saddled with the situation the same as Crays Hill had. If they are called travellers then let them travel.
Also we are annoyed that we have only just learnt about this from a neighbour and was not informed about it.
we strongly object to having a gypsy and travellers site because it would take away our greenery and outlook and do not want to be saddled with the situation the same as Crays Hill had. If they are called travellers then let them travel.
Also we are annoyed that we have only just learnt about this from a neighbour and was not informed about it.
Object
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19523
Received: 29/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Jason Munro
I object to us wasting time and resources even considering supporting them.
I object to us wasting time and resources even considering supporting them.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19579
Received: 29/04/2010
Respondent: Mrs Veronica Stone
Gypsy and traveller sites should each be for a small number of occupants and distributed over a wide area for the following reasons:-
1. one does not wish to create a "ghetto" which the local authority may have difficulty in entering should it be necessary (a certain large unofficial site in Essex is a prime example)
2. avoid putting pressure on local schools in the vicinity of a larger site.
3. avoid putting pressure on other local resources.
Gypsy and traveller sites should each be for a small number of occupants and distributed over a wide area for the following reasons:-
1. one does not wish to create a "ghetto" which the local authority may have difficulty in entering should it be necessary (a certain large unofficial site in Essex is a prime example)
2. avoid putting pressure on local schools in the vicinity of a larger site.
3. avoid putting pressure on other local resources.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19621
Received: 29/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Chris Hain
Distributed over several small sites where there is no room for illegal expansion and as far away from other residents as possible.
Distributed over several small sites where there is no room for illegal expansion and as far away from other residents as possible.
Object
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19789
Received: 30/04/2010
Respondent: Countryside Properties (Special Projects) Ltd
Agent: JB Planning Associates Ltd
Inappropriate site for additional pitch provision due to lack of access and incompatibility with proposals for west of Rayleigh new neighbourhood. A range of suitable sites in different locations should be provided to meet the needs of the gypsy and traveller communities. Part of site GT2 is under the control of Countryside Properties who do not support this proposal.
Background
We recognise that there is both a need for suitable sites for gypsies and travellers, and indeed a requirement under the RSS for provision, and therefore Countryside Properties support the principle of provision through the Site Allocations DPD.
However, in our view, sites GT1, GT2 are not suitable for allocation, for the reasons we set out.
Representations
Sites GT1 and GT2 essentially relate to the same area of land to the immediate east of the A1245, with GT2 representing a slightly larger area of land (which falls within the control of Countryside Properties) compared to GT1.
The Site Allocations DPD notes that "access to the A1245 would need to be negotiated carefully". The site is already used for the siting of mobile homes and caravans, accessed from what is essentially a 90 degree turn from the dual carriageway. Our understanding is that the existing use already causes concerns in terms of the suitability and safety of the access. It is difficult to see how a feasible and viable alternative can be created to accommodate a significant increase in usage. Slip lanes in to and out of the site would be both expensive to provide and would significantly decrease the amount of land available, as well as disrupting the existing occupiers. We are not sure how else an improved access to the site can be provided.
The area of land between the A1245 and the extent of the proposed new development west of Rayleigh has been identified as a 'buffer' in the Core Strategy, and for the provision of a 'Public Park'. Clearly if there is development on the western side of Rayleigh and additional development on the eastern side of the A1245, that 'buffer' will be squeezed from both sides. It is difficult to see how the provision of a substantial additional area of land for mobile homes/caravans is consistent with the concept of the proposed 'buffer'.
In terms of the question raised at the end of this section of the consultation, it would be rare if one site were suitable for the entirety of the gypsy and travelling communities. As with the provision of homes for the remainder of the population, choice is an important consideration in the provision of sites for gypsies and travellers, and providing a range of sites in different locations and of different sizes helps to ensure that those members of the community that have different site or family needs can be catered for. In principle, therefore, provision should be made on several sites, not one large site.
As indicated above, site GT2 includes land under the control of Countryside Properties. Countryside Properties do not support this proposal, and it is difficult to see therefore how this site could be delivered.
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19867
Received: 30/04/2010
Respondent: Mr Mark Atkinson
I feel that the traveller sites should be allocated on ONE SITE for the following reasons:
1. Council has only one site to monitor/control. logical and more efficient and therefore lower cost for tax payer
2. Better for the travellers who then all live with people with similar lifestyles and interests and have more space rather than being squeezed on a small site
3. Should be one site near a major A road so good access for traveller vehicles
4. Near to under utilised infrastuctire (roads, schools, et
5. Boundaries to the site need to be clearly defined and monitored to prevent any illegal expansion
I feel that the traveller sites should be allocated on ONE SITE for the following reasons:
1. Council has only one site to monitor/control. logical and more efficient and therefore lower cost for tax payer
2. Better for the travellers who then all live with people with similar lifestyles and interests and have more space rather than being squeezed on a small site
3. Should be one site near a major A road so good access for traveller vehicles
4. Near to under utilised infrastuctire (roads, schools, et
5. Boundaries to the site need to be clearly defined and monitored to prevent any illegal expansion
Comment
Allocations DPD Discussion and Consultation Document
Representation ID: 19893
Received: 30/04/2010
Respondent: Mrs Hazel Stanton
Given the problem at Crays Hill with police fearing to go on the site, all traveller sites should be kept small with no opportunity for them to made larger. Travellers do not wish to integrate with the community, they are travellers and travel so do not integrate. There is a traveller site on the A1245 surely this is sufficient for the Rayleigh area, and other parts of the district should take their share.
Given the problem at Crays Hill with police fearing to go on the site, all traveller sites should be kept small with no opportunity for them to made larger. Travellers do not wish to integrate with the community, they are travellers and travel so do not integrate. There is a traveller site on the A1245 surely this is sufficient for the Rayleigh area, and other parts of the district should take their share.